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John Old
(1749-1842)
Martha Ivey
(1752-1837)
Robert Liddycoat
(1760-1830)
Margaret Rawlings
(1748-)
Richard Old
(1790-1871)
Jane Liddycoat
(1794-1854)

John Old
(1821-1896)

 

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Spouses/Children:
1. Mary Jane Knuckey

John Old

  • Born: 25 Jun 1821, St. Mawgan-In-Pydar, Cornwall, UK
  • Christened: 3 Jul 1821, St. Mawgan-In-Pydar, Cornwall, UK
  • Marriage (1): Mary Jane Knuckey
  • Died: 1 May 1896, Fordell, Wanganui, New Zealand at age 74
  • BuriedMale: ca. 4 May 1896, Matarawa Cemetery, Wanganui, New Zealand
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bullet  General Notes:

John Old was the third son of Richard Old & Jane Liddicoat. He was christened on the 3rd July, 1821 in St Mawgan in Pydar, Cornwall, UK. John was married at the Te Henui Chapel, New Plymouth to Mary Jane Knuckey, whom he m et on the Essex. They were married by the Rev William Bolland and witnessed by Maria Wills and Robert Old, on the 15th February, 1845. John and Mary Jane lived in New Plymouth in a cottage owned by Richard Knuckey in 184 6. Richard Knuckey was a brother of Mary Jane Knuckey's father, Nicholas K nuckey. The family lived in Wanganui from 1860. They farmed in Fordell - L ot 227, Denlair (210 acres) Mary Jane Old died on the 4th March, 1887 ag ed 59 years, and John Old lived to his 75th year, dying on the 1st May, 18 96. Died at his son-in-law's house (Frank Kurth), Fordell. Both John and M ary Jane Old are buried at St John's Churchyard, Matarawa Cemetery, Wangan ui, along with two of their daughters, Mary Ann in 1866 and Margaret in 18 72. On one occasion a Maori said that John Old's dog had been worrying h is pigs. He knew the dog but not the owner. When ownership was denied, John and the Maori walked for about two hours shoulder to shoulder, the Mao ri ready with his mere to kill the pakeha if the dog came up and showed fr iendliness. Fortunately the dog didn't come near.

OLD John 1/5/1896 1821 B. Mawgan in Pyder, Cornwall; H/O Mary Jane; F /O Mary Ann & Margaret [note: daughters on the same headstone - Mary A nn D. 1866 & Margaret D. 1872] St John's Churchyard, Matarawa Cemetery, Wanganui; NZ Jenny Morgan
OLD Mary Jane 4/3/1887 59 1828 Nee KNUCKEY; B. , Cornwall; D/O Nicholas; W /O John; M/O Mary Ann & Margaret St John's Churchyard, Matarawa Cemetery, Wanganui; NZ Jenny Morgan

Descendants of John Old John Old 1821 - 1896 b: 28 June 1821 in Retalli ck Mills, Cornwall, ENG d: 01 May 1896 in Matarawa, Fordell, Wanganui, NZ m. Mary-Jane Knuckey(1828 - 1887)

Source: Tony Cairns

bullet  Medical Notes:

Scarlet fever on board the Essex

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bullet  Noted events in his life were:

He has conflicting birth information of St. Mawgan-in-Pydar, Cornwall, UK and 25 Jun 1821.

He immigrated Arrived on The Essex, in New Plymouth, New Zealand in 1843.

He resided at Lived in Wanganui, farmed in Fordell Lot 227 - Denlair (210 acres) after 1860.

He resided at In a cottage owned by Richard Knuckey - Mary-Janes paternal uncle in 1846.

He worked as a Farming at Omata, New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand after 1845.

Died REF: RGO 847.


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John married Mary Jane Knuckey. (Mary Jane Knuckey was born on 1 Nov 1828 in Camborne, Cornwall, England, christened on 11 Nov 1828 in Camborne, Cornwall, England, died on 4 Mar 1887 in Matarawa, Fordell, Wanganui, New Zealand and was buried circa 8 Mar 1887 in St Johns Churchyard, Matarawa Cem, Wanganui, New Zealand.)

bullet  Noted events in their marriage were:

Single: Te Henui Chapel, Te Henui, New Plymouth, New Zealand, 15 Feb 1845.

Marriage Bann: By the Publication of Banns in Te Henui Chapel, Te Henui, New Plymouth, New Zealand, by William Bollard in the presence of Maria William Wills and Robert Old - all made their marks, 15 Feb 1845.

Friends: met on the Essex en route to New Zealand, Between 3 Sep 1842 and 20 Jan 1843.

They signed a marriage contract maaried by the Rev William Bolland and witnessed by Maria Wills and Robert Old.


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